The Between Two Artists project began in the summer of 2023 from a recurrent itch to begin working with video and a desire to connect with other artists beyond the limited scope of social media and fleeting interactions at art events.
With zero video experience and a hefty discomfort with being in front of a camera—but with the mindset that the best way to learn is to go ahead and start anyways—there has been an evolution both technically and creatively over the course of the project (watching is recommended over listening). What has remained consistent in my mind is the abundance of interest and insight that the discussions with various artists have provided.
These long-form, organic conversations have allowed me to get to know artists that were previously strangers, open a new level of depth with current connections, and reconnect with people from my past. We have shared encouragement, ideas, knowledge, perspectives, and experiences. We have talked shop about techniques, process, and the business and life of being an artist. At time same time, the videos have become a document of the changing times as current events are discussed or alluded to.
I am incredibly grateful to each of the artists I have talked to for sharing their time, imagery, and selves and for trusting me to put all of that out into the world. This project is on-going.
Spectral Fields, Astronomical Scales, & Human Connection
with Anahita (Ani) BradberryAustin-based artist Ani Bradberry works with plasma, environment, light, and sound. In this in-depth conversation, we discuss her residency and show “Spectral Fields” at DiverseWorks in Houston, and Ani gives us a sneak peek into her thinking as one of the artists selected to create public art at the Austin-Bergstrom International airport. We bond over our shared interest in astronomy and explore the concepts of scale, connection, light, shadow, the elusive quality of self, and identity in art. At the end, we consider what is worth protecting in our lives and in the world.
Date recorded: November 4, 2025 | Date published: January 6, 2026
Experiential Learning, the Good & the Bad, Older & (Hopefully) Wiser
with Tim Kaminski
After reconnecting at the memorial for an old friend and discussing the Between Two Artists project, my old art school and Good/Bad Art Collective cohort Tim Kaminski had a lot of ideas, so we spent several hours musing and reminiscing. In this edited down conversation (the original was 3+ hours!), we talk about the national guard in D.C. (where Tim currently is based), recall the Good/Bad Art Collective show at the Nasher Sculpture Garden in Dallas as well as the controversial Popo y Lupe show at Good/Bad, and catch up on the evolution of our lives and art practices.
This video contains extensive image credits, which can be found here.
Date recorded: August 14, 2025 | Date published: September 3, 2025
The Desert, the Stars, Labors of Love, and Creating a Future with Intentionality
with Mai Snow
Valentine, Texas-based artist Mai Snow and I connect over a shared love for far West Texas (where Big Bend National Park and Marfa are both located) and the immensity of light pollution-free night skies. Mai shares their experience with building an adobe studio by hand and how that has informed their work, and we unpack the concept of the word labor. We talk about navigating traditional and artist-driven art world structures, economies, and expectations, and how creativity acts as a means to freedom. And by the end, as Mai put it, it felt like we were just "vibin'."
Date recorded: July 25, 2025 | Date published: August 5, 2025
Strength. Truth. Love.
with Ray Ortiz
In this collaborative tarot reading, my old art school friend and fellow former Good/Bad Art Collective member Ray Ortiz and I take turns pulling tarot cards and allow the cards to guide the conversation. We cover everything from: the January 2025 wildfires in L.A. (where Ray lives), drag, cultural associations with clowns and how/why clown imagery appears in Ray's artwork, success as a journey and the inherent vulnerability of sharing yourself creatively, Dogmatism and binary thinking, the June 2025 I.C.E. raids in L.A., and the collective process of emotional growth.
Date recorded: June 26, 2025 | Date published: July 8, 2025
From Muppets and Sesame Street to the Documentary Film Gowanus Current
with Jamie Courville
Brooklyn-based documentary filmmaker and old friend Jamie Courville and I start with a brief stroll down memory lane before we jump into the trajectory of her career: from working on Sesame Street on the streets of NYC to her project with creative partner and husband Chris Reynolds documenting the development, pollution, and resident involvement of the Gowanus neighborhood in Brooklyn. We talk media literacy, storytelling, creative sovereignty, affordability, and racial and income disparities all while touching on some of her other projects through the years.
Date recorded: May 19, 2025 | Date published: May 29, 2025
Channeling Creative Visions, Collaborations, and Allowing Life to Unfold
with Kate Csillagi
Austin-based artist Kate Csillagi and I dive into the watery depths in this conversation, covering everything from the appearance of eels in Kate's work, a mural inside a pool, channeled art, dreams, visions, and how we each get into that "space." Kate shares background details about the "Epiphany" show at Co-Lab Projects in Austin as well as about her time as a member of the ICOSA Collective. We talk about the value of creative collaborations, deep listening, and shifting expectations and current changes in the art world.
Date recorded: March 20, 2025 | Date published: April 15, 2025
BONUS VIDEO
Kate and I talked for so long that I broke out a section of the video where we discuss our current projects and reflect on how the intensity of the world is affecting both us and the work we produce.
Date recorded: March 20, 2025 | Date published: April 22, 2025
Taking Things Apart and Putting Them Back Together
with Marshall Thompson
Dallas, Texas-based multi-disciplinary artist Marshall Thompson and I had a short overlap in our time as members of Good/Bad Art Collective. It wasn't enough to really get to know each other, and so we make up for lost time in this conversation. Marshall describes the important influence that Good/Bad and his collaborations with fellow member Micah Yarborough had on his life and creativity. We talk about "noise" art, technical tinkering, honoring creative rhythms, and persistent art myths... and by the end we've broken down some of the myths around each other as well.
Date recorded: October 30, 2024 | Date published: December 5, 2024
BONUS VIDEOS
A few months before recording the conversation with Marshall, one of our mutual friends John Freeman passed away. John was a musician and artist who was a key part of the history of Good/Bad Art Collective and of the Denton and Dallas music scene in the 90s and early 2000s. We took some time to remember him, and I created a follow-up video showcasing highlights from his memorial concert.
Date recorded: October 30, 2024 | Date published: March 25, 2025
Date recorded: March 30, 2025 | Date published: April 8, 2025
Color, Grief, Portals for the Soul, and a Sense of Place
with Rachel Comminos
In this getting-to-know-you talk with Harlingen, Texas-based artist Rachel Comminos, Rachel shares the story of how she came to live and work in an old hotel built in the 1920s in the southern tip of Texas, and she gives us an impromptu tour of the building. We talk about how she got her start working with textiles, personal relationships with color, how grief shows up in her artwork, and how art acts as a portal for the soul. We share a sense that connection (or disconnection) to place has a strong impact on how we feel and how we are able to show up in our creativity.
Date recorded: August 30, 2024 | Date published: October 25, 2024
Being From Texas, Beyond Illustration, and Seeing Things Differently
with Ray-Mel Cornelius
Ray-Mel Cornelius and I shared many connections and had plenty of brief encounters at art openings in Dallas, but we were little more than acquaintances when we began this conversation. We talk about Ray-Mel's move from Dallas to Taos and the impact of both locations. We dig into the complicated relationship many Texans have with their home state, how that has shown up in Ray-Mel's work, and explore the political and social subtexts of landscape as a subject matter. We discuss illustration, edginess, "shoulds," and Ray-Mel shares his experience of watching the first moon landing.
Date recorded: May 30, 2024 | Date published: July 10, 2024
Astronomy, Calligraphy, Community, and Colonialism
with Andrea Tosten
Dallas-based text and installation artist Andrea Tosten and I start our conversation with the total solar eclipse on April 8, 2024 then dive into our shared love for space exploration and astronomy and discuss how those things show up in each of our work. We talk about having hope in a challenging world, creating opportunities and generating community, and the equal importance of research and play in Andrea's work. Andrea draws connections between calligraphy and Colonialism, and we end with some musings on vulnerability and "academic armor."
Date recorded: May 2024 | Date published: June 5, 2024
Experimentation and a Growth Mindset
with Raul René Gonzalez
San Antonio-based artist Raul René Gonzalez and I discuss the benefits of working in different styles, and Raul describes how he funds his artwork through grants, which allows him to work full-time as an artist. He shares how a family road trip to Yellowstone, microdosing psilocybin, and the gig economy all have informed his artwork, and he provides some suggestions for exploring the San Antonio art scene. And in keeping with the themes of experimentation and domesticity, I open with a short, introductory cooking video, for kicks.
Date recorded: April 22, 2024 | Date published: May 22, 2024
Liminal Spaces, Residencies, & Art as a Meditation
with Kerry Hugins
Austin-based artist Kerry Hugin's watercolors of UV light flowers caught my eye on social media, and we dig into her process and her interest in aspects of reality that are imperceptible to human senses. Kerry shares her experiences living in Mexico as a child and returning as an adult for residencies, how current events were always centered in her life, and how art serves as a meditation in her life. We talk about beauty and the spiritual in art, lucid dreams and extrasensory experiences, and taking ownership as an artist.
Date recorded: March 26, 2024 | Date published: April 25, 2024
Precision, Decision-Making, Vernon Fisher & Dave Hickey
with Aaron Baker
Chicago-based artist Aaron Baker and I have known each other since day 1 of art school. I press him to reveal the mysteries of one of his paintings from the period, which leads us into a discussion of art school in the 90s. We go into the experiences of learning from UNT professor Vernon Fisher and Dave Hickey at UNLV. And we talk about the nature of technical precision versus looseness, the meditative quality of each, and taking breaks and reconnecting with a love for making art.
Date recorded: February 14, 2024 | Date published: April 3, 2024
Recreating Your Life and Then Some
with Theresa Zelasko
After the pandemic, I noticed my friend Theresa Zelasko had become a deluge of making, and so I checked in with her to talk about the compulsion. We both shared the experience of being in unfulfilling and unsustainable careers (like many in this era), and had made deliberate moves to restructure our lives towards creativity. Through Teensy Vintage, Theresa makes collaged art journals and books and is an active YouTuber. We talk about egalitarian forms of art and the rewards of putting in the work and going for it.
Date recorded: February 5, 2024 | Date published: March 24, 2024
Art School Toxicities, Album Covers, and Finding Peace in Nature
with Chris Kysor
Dennison, Texas-based artist Chris Kysor was name-dropped by Owen Wilson on Rick Rubin's podcast and interestingly their topic of discussion fit perfectly with our own conversation about failures within the education system as we revisit a 90s art school dichotomy: painters versus conceptual artists. He shares how a childhood friendship with David Berman led to his art being featured on the iconic Silver Jews "American Water" album. And finally, we talk about finding peace in nature and contentment in creating landscapes.
Date recorded: January 2024 | Date published: March 6, 2024
Collaboration, Inner Child Healing, and the Grotesque
with Brian Keith Jones
Dallas-based artist Brian Keith Jones and I finally have a long overdue (like, decades) one-on-one conversation after knowing each other socially since the 90s. One half of the art duo known as Chuck and George, we talk about Brian's collaborative versus solo work. He shares how formative experiences in his childhood led to themes of the grotesque and personal identity featuring prominently in his artwork. We talk about the influence of movies, creating zines, living with art, being labeled as a "fun" artist, and lunching with John Waters.
Date recorded: January 2024 | Date published: February 14, 2024
BONUS VIDEO
Brian has a significant body of work centered around Big Tex, the animatronic greeter at the annual Texas State Fair. We unpack why he began working with that image, and Brian shares press and surface-level reactions to the work.
Date recorded: January 2024 | Date published: February 22, 2024
Sensitivity to Culture, A.I., Art as Discovery, and Tequila
with Joel Salcido
San Antonio-based photographer Joel Salcido and I recall meeting as a result of Joel's Aliento a Tequila project and discuss avoiding cultural stereotypes while restoring dignity through our depictions. Joel shares depths of wisdom from his lifetime as a photojournalist and fine art photographer as we cover the necessity of honesty in art, cultivating creativity in society, A.I. in the arts, racism and border complexities, the inspirational effect of museums, walking the Camino de Santiago, and the artist as a vessel for the spiritual.
Date recorded: December 2023 | Date published: January 24, 2024
Connecting to Culture, Noguchi, Ceramics & Landscape Architecture
with Allen Yu
In this getting-to-know-you conversation with ceramic artist and landscape architect Allen Yu, we share our experiences working at East Side Pot Shop in Austin. With pottery as an ancient practice that connects all people, Allen offers a wealth of knowledge about cultural and historical ceramic practices in Asia and discusses the influence of Isamu Noguchi and organic themes and materials on his work. We talk about cultural symbolism, finding your voice, the value of the beginner's mind, pricing art, and claiming our value as artists.
Date recorded: September 7, 2023 | Date published: October 24, 2023
Responding to Racism, Murals, Reels as Art & More
with Kenneth Holland
Oakland, California-based artist Kenneth Holland and I start by discussing our connection through mutual friend Tom Micklethwait and the murals Kenneth has created for Tom's barbecue restaurants. We talk about the reels he makes as art forms and what led to him hitting pause on painting. This conversation contains direct discussion about racism, the climate of overt and violent racist acts, and how that climate impacts Kenneth's art-making.
Date recorded: September 6, 2023 | Date published: October 10, 2023
with Garland Fielder
Houston-based artist and musician Garland Fielder and I start by diving into his bunker series—which I discovered during the lockdown period of the pandemic and which felt perfectly timed—and that leads us into discussion about Garland's interest in the bonding effects of catastrophic events. We talk about life on a grand scale, the Fermi paradox and extraterrestrial life, the value of asking big questions, and Garland's band Phil Spector as a means to explore trauma through tragic figures.
Date recorded: September 5, 2023 | Date published: September 26, 2023
Atomic Bombs, Georgia O'Keeffe, Wildfires, & Deep Time
with Scott Winterrowd
Dallas-based artist and museum director Scott Winterrowd is an old friend, and in this conversation we are equal parts silly and serious. On the heels of the Barbenheimer phenomenon, we talk about his atomic bomb painting series and recall our visit to the Trinity site. Scott shares his art historical knowledge of Georgia O'Keeffe in relation to the bomb test. We talk about the Sublime and beauty in art, Scott's wildfire paintings, deep time, the role of landscapes in art, and watercolor as a great metaphor for life.
Date recorded: August, 2023 | Date published: September 12, 2023
BONUS VIDEO
In this bonus video, Scott and I talk about the recent congressional UAP hearings, our paper maché alien Halloween costumes in the 90s, Star Trek, and venture a bit into our plein air work and the rarity of places that have been untouched by humans.
Date recorded: August, 2023 | Date published: September 19, 2023
Urban Sprawl, Channeling Creativity, Connecting with Nature, & Dance
with L. Renée Nuñéz
In the very first episode ever of Between Two Artists, Austin-based artist and dancer L. Renée Nuñéz and I share our experiences with urban sprawl, our feelings of connection with nature, and how that shows up in our work. We talk about channeling creativity and what that means, art journaling, control versus flow, solo hiking and traveling as women, and how dance and movement appear in Renée's visual art. A huge thank you to Renée for helping get this project started!
Date recorded: August 6, 2023 | Date published: August 28, 2023